I went to see a Dentist with the reason to replace a broken porcelain on my bridge. I was covered by 2 dental insurances. I ended up with 3 unnecessary root canal treatments and $5000 in bill. I understand that the Dentist needs to maintain her life stail, but it is my health she was playing with? I am a naive stupid to allowed it to happen, but where can i complain at least?
People, do not ewer trust the Dentist! Do your own research before the visit and keep all your medical records in your house for your references.
Dentist and HELL?
How do you know that the root canals were unnecessary? Perhaps you had decay in the abutment teeth of the bridge. And even if you had 2 dental insurances, they both still had maximums per year and if you needed 3 root canals and a new bridge, I'm sure you ran out of coverage for the year, so the left over balance is not surprising in the least.
Reply:Not all dentists are as bad as yours.
Our dentist has been wonderful and never does any unnecessary treatment. In fact when our 7 year old daughter had a bike accident on July 4, he treated her and didn't charge us.
Reply:You can file a small claims lawsuit. Get a statement from another dentist that the treatment ws unneccessary. However, its possible you did need the treatment, and you're just not happy to have to pay for it.
Reply:SUE THEM if your really pissed off.
Reply:I agree please if you feel strongly about spending money on necessary things such as your health, do some research and understand the procedure being done. Also educate your self about your coverage too.
Monday, May 17, 2010
My NHS dentist fitted 2 oversized bridges 1st cracked/lost 2nd broke teeth below. Distraught where do I turn?
After 1st bridge refitted due gum recession, was told to wait a month to affect oversize it only lasted 2 weeks. Asked for implant referral was sent dental hospital on 6 month waiting list were they don’t offer implants and they said referral was for a plate. I had two ill fitting plates made at my dentist due huge loss. I went my dentist again as an abscess remarked on 9 months earlier swelled and caused great pain. I was given the strongest antibiotic made as over years of treatment antibiotics were issued at nearly every occasion. My 2nd bridge was loose and the temporary to final replacement put so much pressure on lower bridge another abscess was created. Shards of the removed bridge were found between my front teeth in the evening. The final fitting was postponed as the bridge was not correct to my dentist’s standards but it was fitted anyway as a temporary to be removed in two weeks. This one fitted well and left the promised correction to other work open. The final fitting was delayed as my dentist had a holiday but it still took an hour and a half of extreme effort to remove, the back of my head was numb for another hour. The bridge was as before oversized and eliminated possible correction to previous work. My panic at its destruction had me call at least six times over many months and despite the previous bridges fitting this one could not be reduced further. A plate was created to even the pressure and be worn while sleeping but when fitting was reduced too much and ineffective. I believed the lower bridge broken as it was loose and becoming worse but I was told not. A last emergency appointment of 3 weeks had me attend the dental clinic as an emergency. I had been waiting since February for an appointment as requested of my dentist but a phone call suggested neither 2 said attempts had been received. I had asked the receptionist if I could attend the hospital without referral she said no. The emergency’ option must have slipped her mind as had the hospital not offering implants though she did state a year later that I couldn’t afford it as reason for subterfuge. The correct implant referral was made after 13 months of my request, the price quadrupled. Decay to the area of the 2nd abscess and pressure to the bridge had broken it. The hospital does implants for car crash victims and extreme cases as a special case I can only hope my luck will change but I am in pain the bridge very loose as is are another three teeth and I need a root canal. My dentist capped every tooth over and over till they fell out. Then the rules changed payment was no longer on work done but on time taken like an hour and a halt to remove a temporary bridge. I have tried to change my dentist but as the shape of my mouth has been lost nobody wanted to know.
My NHS dentist fitted 2 oversized bridges 1st cracked/lost 2nd broke teeth below. Distraught where do I turn?
Unfortunately this is always a risk when you have bridgescrowns ect but they dont normally tell you. I unfortunately also had this problem. I think that you should go back to the same dentist and ask what he can do to help. Other then that you could try private treatment but that will be very expensive
My NHS dentist fitted 2 oversized bridges 1st cracked/lost 2nd broke teeth below. Distraught where do I turn?
Unfortunately this is always a risk when you have bridgescrowns ect but they dont normally tell you. I unfortunately also had this problem. I think that you should go back to the same dentist and ask what he can do to help. Other then that you could try private treatment but that will be very expensive
My NHS dentist fitted 2 oversized bridges 1st cracked/lost 2nd broke teeth below. Distraught where do I turn?
After 1st bridge refitted due gum recession, was told to wait a month to affect oversize it only lasted 2 weeks. Asked for implant referral was sent dental hospital on 6 month waiting list were they don’t offer implants and they said referral was for a plate. I had two ill fitting plates made at my dentist due huge loss. I went my dentist again as an abscess remarked on 9 months earlier swelled and caused great pain. I was given the strongest antibiotic made as over years of treatment antibiotics were issued at nearly every occasion. My 2nd bridge was loose and the temporary to final replacement put so much pressure on lower bridge another abscess was created. Shards of the removed bridge were found between my front teeth in the evening. The final fitting was postponed as the bridge was not correct to my dentist’s standards but it was fitted anyway as a temporary to be removed in two weeks. This one fitted well and left the promised correction to other work open. The final fitting was delayed as my dentist had a holiday but it still took an hour and a half of extreme effort to remove, the back of my head was numb for another hour. The bridge was as before oversized and eliminated possible correction to previous work. My panic at its destruction had me call at least six times over many months and despite the previous bridges fitting this one could not be reduced further. A plate was created to even the pressure and be worn while sleeping but when fitting was reduced too much and ineffective. I believed the lower bridge broken as it was loose and becoming worse but I was told not. A last emergency appointment of 3 weeks had me attend the dental clinic as an emergency. I had been waiting since February for an appointment as requested of my dentist but a phone call suggested neither 2 said attempts had been received. I had asked the receptionist if I could attend the hospital without referral she said no. The emergency’ option must have slipped her mind as had the hospital not offering implants though she did state a year later that I couldn’t afford it as reason for subterfuge. The correct implant referral was made after 13 months of my request, the price quadrupled. Decay to the area of the 2nd abscess and pressure to the bridge had broken it. The hospital does implants for car crash victims and extreme cases as a special case I can only hope my luck will change but I am in pain the bridge very loose as is are another three teeth and I need a root canal. My dentist capped every tooth over and over till they fell out. Then the rules changed payment was no longer on work done but on time taken like an hour and a halt to remove a temporary bridge. I have tried to change my dentist but as the shape of my mouth has been lost nobody wanted to know.
My NHS dentist fitted 2 oversized bridges 1st cracked/lost 2nd broke teeth below. Distraught where do I turn?
Have you tried going to abroad for treatment, it will be better and cheaper. Not sure which country, India may be best.
Reply:An option may be a holistic dentist-look in your local yellow pages
My NHS dentist fitted 2 oversized bridges 1st cracked/lost 2nd broke teeth below. Distraught where do I turn?
Have you tried going to abroad for treatment, it will be better and cheaper. Not sure which country, India may be best.
Reply:An option may be a holistic dentist-look in your local yellow pages
My NHS dentist fitted 2 oversized bridges 1st cracked/lost 2nd broke teeth below. Distraught where do I turn?
After 1st bridge refitted due gum recession, was told to wait a month to affect oversize it only lasted 2 weeks. Asked for implant referral was sent dental hospital on 6 month waiting list were they don’t offer implants and they said referral was for a plate. I had two ill fitting plates made at my dentist due huge loss. I went my dentist again as an abscess remarked on 9 months earlier swelled and caused great pain. I was given the strongest antibiotic made as over years of treatment antibiotics were issued at nearly every occasion. My 2nd bridge was loose and the temporary to final replacement put so much pressure on lower bridge another abscess was created. Shards of the removed bridge were found between my front teeth in the evening. The final fitting was postponed as the bridge was not correct to my dentist’s standards but it was fitted anyway as a temporary to be removed in two weeks. This one fitted well and left the promised correction to other work open. The final fitting was delayed as my dentist had a holiday but it still took an hour and a half of extreme effort to remove, the back of my head was numb for another hour. The bridge was as before oversized and eliminated possible correction to previous work. My panic at its destruction had me call at least six times over many months and despite the previous bridges fitting this one could not be reduced further. A plate was created to even the pressure and be worn while sleeping but when fitting was reduced too much and ineffective. I believed the lower bridge broken as it was loose and becoming worse but I was told not. A last emergency appointment of 3 weeks had me attend the dental clinic as an emergency. I had been waiting since February for an appointment as requested of my dentist but a phone call suggested neither 2 said attempts had been received. I had asked the receptionist if I could attend the hospital without referral she said no. The emergency’ option must have slipped her mind as had the hospital not offering implants though she did state a year later that I couldn’t afford it as reason for subterfuge. The correct implant referral was made after 13 months of my request, the price quadrupled. Decay to the area of the 2nd abscess and pressure to the bridge had broken it. The hospital does implants for car crash victims and extreme cases as a special case I can only hope my luck will change but I am in pain the bridge very loose as is are another three teeth and I need a root canal. My dentist capped every tooth over and over till they fell out. Then the rules changed payment was no longer on work done but on time taken like an hour and a halt to remove a temporary bridge. I have tried to change my dentist but as the shape of my mouth has been lost nobody wanted to know.
My NHS dentist fitted 2 oversized bridges 1st cracked/lost 2nd broke teeth below. Distraught where do I turn?
It all sounds very dodgy! Suggest you contact the Dental Practice board and the AVMA (Action for the Victims of Medical Accidents) for further advice.
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My NHS dentist fitted 2 oversized bridges 1st cracked/lost 2nd broke teeth below. Distraught where do I turn?
It all sounds very dodgy! Suggest you contact the Dental Practice board and the AVMA (Action for the Victims of Medical Accidents) for further advice.
Reply:Not sure, but the following sites contain a LOT of really helpful information.
http://www.san-diego-dentist.us
http://san-diego-dentists.blogspot.com
http://www.san-diego-dentist.us/san-dieg...
http://www.san-diego-dentist.us/tijuana-...
http://www.san-diego-dentist.us/san-dieg...
http://www.las-vegas-nevada-lawyer-attor...
http://www.medical-research-study-direct...
http://www.lasik-surgery-san-diego.info/...
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Can someone help me find a reasonable dentist in St. Louis, MO?
I need bridges, caps, crowns and extracts I have been told that would cost me $17000. Yes that cost is right, I have dental insurance but to get one bridge is $1500. I need 6 bridges, about 7 or 8 caps and other things these where just major issues that cost the most.
Can someone help me find a reasonable dentist in St. Louis, MO?
Dr. Thomas Flavin, he is a great dentist with great prices and will work out a payment plan. His office staff is incredibly nice also. He is located on Watson right by Ted Drewes.
Can someone help me find a reasonable dentist in St. Louis, MO?
Dr. Thomas Flavin, he is a great dentist with great prices and will work out a payment plan. His office staff is incredibly nice also. He is located on Watson right by Ted Drewes.
My Teeth are a Mess?
My teeth are a mess. I haven't had a tooth pulled since I was a teenager; I'm now in my 50s. In the late 70s-early 80s I had extensive dental work -- 7 crowns, a bridge and upper and lower partials. Now all these years later, I need all of it replaced. My gums are getting bad and I worry about infection -- mainly because I've had a hip replacement and I found out any infection in the mouth can go right to the prothesis. (Oh the joys of growing old!) I'm debating whether to just get all my teeth pulled (I only have 9 actual teeth, not counting the 7 stubs under the crowns), or have the crowns/bridge replaced and get new partials. Also, CAN THE TEENY TINY STUBS UNDER THE CROWNS BE PULLED EASILY -- it seems to me they'd be very difficult to get out, since there's not much to grip.
My Teeth are a Mess?
I am so sorry you feel like you are in a bad situation with your teeth, but trust me, please keep any teeth you can for as long as you can. Dentures are never the solution unless it is the only option left. They never fit perfectly or feel natural when eating or speaking. Plus, once teeth are removed, the bone looses its function and beings to dissolve away, leaving less of a foundation for dentures to adhere to properly. As far as your gums getting bad, seeing a hygienist for regular cleanings (even as frequent as 4 times a year), plus regular brushing and flossing can help maintain gum health. As far as the infection risk to your hip replacement, a doctor or dentist can prescribe antibiotic premed to take 1 hour prior to your dental appointment to ward off any risk associated with dental treatment. Crowns ands bridges do not last forever and if you have had 20-30 years of life out of them, you got your moneys worth! You will need good strong teeth and restorations for a long time if you are only in your 50's, so having them replaced is worth time time, cost and effort. Hope this helps a little.....I know many people start to feel hopeless about their teeth when the dentist lets you know you need some major work, but teeth are a lot like cars, they need maintenance and care to perform at their best. Good Luck! =)
Reply:I've had 7 teeth pulled and 4 of them were broken down to the roots. Those broken ones came out easily so I think your 'stubs' will come out just fine. I'm getting another broken tooth pulled, 6 crowns and upper and lower partials soon. I'm only 29 but I feel your pain.
Reply:Find yourself a dentist that is willing to give all options, cost is always a factor. As far as the stubs, I've had 3 stubbies pulled, didnt even know they were out until the surgeon told me, sometimes they do fracture in the gum %26amp; they have to ensure they got it all out, no big deal. Us older people didnt have the benefit of good dental care %26amp; flouride treatments, we werent taught proper dental care, therefore now we're finding we have a lot more dental issues, oh the joys of getting old LOL If your gums are having issues from your partials, that means they are not fitting right, go in %26amp; have an impression done, maybe they just need to be reformed.
Reply:The trick for you is to find a good dentist with whom you can discuss all the options, and then decide the best course of action for you.
The current dentist fad is to try and save teeth at all costs - trouble is, it is your cost, and with decent inlays, crowns and bridges rolling in at £300 plus each it soon adds up !
So shop around for an established dental practice and take it from there.
Good luck !
My Teeth are a Mess?
I am so sorry you feel like you are in a bad situation with your teeth, but trust me, please keep any teeth you can for as long as you can. Dentures are never the solution unless it is the only option left. They never fit perfectly or feel natural when eating or speaking. Plus, once teeth are removed, the bone looses its function and beings to dissolve away, leaving less of a foundation for dentures to adhere to properly. As far as your gums getting bad, seeing a hygienist for regular cleanings (even as frequent as 4 times a year), plus regular brushing and flossing can help maintain gum health. As far as the infection risk to your hip replacement, a doctor or dentist can prescribe antibiotic premed to take 1 hour prior to your dental appointment to ward off any risk associated with dental treatment. Crowns ands bridges do not last forever and if you have had 20-30 years of life out of them, you got your moneys worth! You will need good strong teeth and restorations for a long time if you are only in your 50's, so having them replaced is worth time time, cost and effort. Hope this helps a little.....I know many people start to feel hopeless about their teeth when the dentist lets you know you need some major work, but teeth are a lot like cars, they need maintenance and care to perform at their best. Good Luck! =)
Reply:I've had 7 teeth pulled and 4 of them were broken down to the roots. Those broken ones came out easily so I think your 'stubs' will come out just fine. I'm getting another broken tooth pulled, 6 crowns and upper and lower partials soon. I'm only 29 but I feel your pain.
Reply:Find yourself a dentist that is willing to give all options, cost is always a factor. As far as the stubs, I've had 3 stubbies pulled, didnt even know they were out until the surgeon told me, sometimes they do fracture in the gum %26amp; they have to ensure they got it all out, no big deal. Us older people didnt have the benefit of good dental care %26amp; flouride treatments, we werent taught proper dental care, therefore now we're finding we have a lot more dental issues, oh the joys of getting old LOL If your gums are having issues from your partials, that means they are not fitting right, go in %26amp; have an impression done, maybe they just need to be reformed.
Reply:The trick for you is to find a good dentist with whom you can discuss all the options, and then decide the best course of action for you.
The current dentist fad is to try and save teeth at all costs - trouble is, it is your cost, and with decent inlays, crowns and bridges rolling in at £300 plus each it soon adds up !
So shop around for an established dental practice and take it from there.
Good luck !
Dentists... what is the cheaper and/or more durable option?
I have a front tooth that is a crown. I guess there wasn't a whole lot of natural tooth structure left to glue it to, but it was doing OK until I started having to wear a TAP appliance at night to stop my snoring. The torque of the appliance keeps working my crown loose, and I keep having to get it re-cemented about every 6 months... Anyway, the crown is loose again, so I decided to stop wearing the appliance altogether, and just sleep in separate rooms :-(
So my question is this - IF (and it'a big "if") the dentist tells me that she can't recement the crown anymore...that it just won't hold... I know I have two options: A three-tooth crown-bridge combo, OR a dental implant. Which is cheaper, and which is more durable?
Dentists... what is the cheaper and/or more durable option?
The TAP appliance needs to be adjusted to eliminate the excessive pressure placed on this crown. The continued crown removal and leaking while it's becoming loose, is allowing bacteria to enter under the crown, exposing the nerve of this tooth to this bacteria. This will eventually cause this tooth to die. Then you will have two options, root canal therapy or extraction. The appliance should not be causing a crown to come off, if it's seated to a sound clean tooth structure with proper cementation techniques being used.
If you need to have it removed a dental implant would be your best option, then a three unit bridge if the implant isn't an option for you. But keep in mind that either of these will not withstand pressure from the appliance that your tooth is being subjected to right now. It's better to keep what you have and fix the appliance or return it and have another made that will fit correctly.
Crowns usually have to be cut off the tooth using a high speed hand piece; they shouldn't be able to be removed by the slight pressure an appliance exerts on them. So if this appliance is forcing the crown off, then either the appliance needs adjusting or the crown isn't cemented properly onto a sound tooth structure.
Hope I've been of some help with this and that you'll talk to your dentist about an adjustment on the appliance to save your tooth.
Additional information: If your crown is loose now, it's allowing the bacteria to seep under the crown and reach the unprotected tooth as I stated above. This can lead to decay of this tooth causing it to be non-restorable. Perhaps you should ask your dentist to use different cement, a glass ionomer preferably. Also we always try to save a natural tooth, which is what you still have under the crown. The root and tooth are still there, just missing the enamel so the crown would fit over it. So, to answer your question, this is the way I would put it to a patient. We are going to try a different cement this time, and let's take an impression of your mouth to send to the lab along with this appliance. This way they will have a replica of your teeth and mouth (this could have changed a little with all the recememts you've had done) which will aid them in making any necessary adjustment to the appliance. Now if she tells you the crown can't be re-cemented again, ask why? There are "reasons" they can't, not just because it's "come off" so many times. That's not a good reason, unless it's affected the margins of the tooth and it no longer seats correctly. Then she would be recommending a new crown for the tooth. No, and I repeat NO dentist will want to do an extraction and replace it with a 3 unit bridge or an implant, just because the crown keeps coming off. There has to be a reason that the tooth is non-restorable. If you can't get the answers you need from this dentist, I suggest you find someone with a little more experience with crown and bridge work and with your appliance. I've thought about your question and knew I had to add more that what I did yesterday for my answer. Sorry this is so long, I do get on a roll sometimes when it comes to something I know, and that’s dentistry. Good luck!
Reply:I'm no expert here, but my 8 yr old daughter just knocked out her two front teeth at school, not only knocked them out but broke them in half, what I was told by our Dentist is that the best option is to keep and cap the teeth, but even then they it will need a bridge or implants in the future, because caps don' last, they only get harder and harder to adhere, what he said is that implants are the best money can buy, there is no messing around with them no worries about them, they are better than your real teeth if you can't have your real teeth that is, having said that, they are extremely expensive, about 5k per tooth, and most insurances won't cover them.
So my question is this - IF (and it'a big "if") the dentist tells me that she can't recement the crown anymore...that it just won't hold... I know I have two options: A three-tooth crown-bridge combo, OR a dental implant. Which is cheaper, and which is more durable?
Dentists... what is the cheaper and/or more durable option?
The TAP appliance needs to be adjusted to eliminate the excessive pressure placed on this crown. The continued crown removal and leaking while it's becoming loose, is allowing bacteria to enter under the crown, exposing the nerve of this tooth to this bacteria. This will eventually cause this tooth to die. Then you will have two options, root canal therapy or extraction. The appliance should not be causing a crown to come off, if it's seated to a sound clean tooth structure with proper cementation techniques being used.
If you need to have it removed a dental implant would be your best option, then a three unit bridge if the implant isn't an option for you. But keep in mind that either of these will not withstand pressure from the appliance that your tooth is being subjected to right now. It's better to keep what you have and fix the appliance or return it and have another made that will fit correctly.
Crowns usually have to be cut off the tooth using a high speed hand piece; they shouldn't be able to be removed by the slight pressure an appliance exerts on them. So if this appliance is forcing the crown off, then either the appliance needs adjusting or the crown isn't cemented properly onto a sound tooth structure.
Hope I've been of some help with this and that you'll talk to your dentist about an adjustment on the appliance to save your tooth.
Additional information: If your crown is loose now, it's allowing the bacteria to seep under the crown and reach the unprotected tooth as I stated above. This can lead to decay of this tooth causing it to be non-restorable. Perhaps you should ask your dentist to use different cement, a glass ionomer preferably. Also we always try to save a natural tooth, which is what you still have under the crown. The root and tooth are still there, just missing the enamel so the crown would fit over it. So, to answer your question, this is the way I would put it to a patient. We are going to try a different cement this time, and let's take an impression of your mouth to send to the lab along with this appliance. This way they will have a replica of your teeth and mouth (this could have changed a little with all the recememts you've had done) which will aid them in making any necessary adjustment to the appliance. Now if she tells you the crown can't be re-cemented again, ask why? There are "reasons" they can't, not just because it's "come off" so many times. That's not a good reason, unless it's affected the margins of the tooth and it no longer seats correctly. Then she would be recommending a new crown for the tooth. No, and I repeat NO dentist will want to do an extraction and replace it with a 3 unit bridge or an implant, just because the crown keeps coming off. There has to be a reason that the tooth is non-restorable. If you can't get the answers you need from this dentist, I suggest you find someone with a little more experience with crown and bridge work and with your appliance. I've thought about your question and knew I had to add more that what I did yesterday for my answer. Sorry this is so long, I do get on a roll sometimes when it comes to something I know, and that’s dentistry. Good luck!
Reply:I'm no expert here, but my 8 yr old daughter just knocked out her two front teeth at school, not only knocked them out but broke them in half, what I was told by our Dentist is that the best option is to keep and cap the teeth, but even then they it will need a bridge or implants in the future, because caps don' last, they only get harder and harder to adhere, what he said is that implants are the best money can buy, there is no messing around with them no worries about them, they are better than your real teeth if you can't have your real teeth that is, having said that, they are extremely expensive, about 5k per tooth, and most insurances won't cover them.
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